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[賽后貼] 昨天進行的一場男籃世界杯小組賽，中國隊69-89不敵南蘇丹隊，遭遇兩連敗。美網友賽后針對本場比賽進行了討論。

[–]Raptorssevelev711 264 points 17 hours ago

Who would win a basketball game: the second most powerful country in the world, or a country who's younger than the players on the team?

猛龍球迷：大家來猜猜，下面這兩支國家籃球隊進行比賽，哪一支會贏呢？

球隊一：來自世界第二強國的籃球隊

球隊二：球員年齡比國家年齡還要大的籃球隊

注：南蘇丹于2011年7月9日正式宣布獨立，成立南蘇丹共和國。

[–]KnicksRobbobertoBuii 108 points 17 hours ago

I thought you were joking until I saw the date:

July 9, 2011

??

尼克斯球迷：樓上的，我本來還以為你在開玩笑呢，直到我看到了“國慶日：2011年7月9日”??

[–]Admirable-Western-91 224 points 17 hours ago

They completely ignored Kyle Anderson who was clearly their best player by far for Zhou Qi who couldn’t even back down or finish at the rim at all

球迷：中國隊完全忽略了李凱爾才是他們最強的點，反觀周琦，目前看來他甚至連一點兒低位進攻和近筐終結能力也沒有…

[–]KnicksRobbobertoBuii 66 points 17 hours ago

And an air ball FT attempt as well

尼克斯球迷：他還貢獻了一記三不沾罰籃呢~~~

[–]SpursThehelloman0 43 points 15 hours ago

Watching highlights for game 1 it was so obvious Qi sucked at basketball considering his height advantage

馬刺球迷：我看了第一場比賽的集錦，盡管擁有身高優勢，但周琦這球打得還是肉眼可見地爛啊~~~

[–]copydex1 35 points 11 hours ago

That’s because they care too much about height. After the Japanese win yesterday, a lot of people on Chinese social media were talking about how all those shorter Japanese players would never have been picked for even a middle school team, and that China needs to rethink their selection criteria

球迷：因為中國籃球選材太在乎身高了！前天日本贏球之后，中國球迷就在社交媒體就紛紛吐槽，像日本隊那種小個子球員要是放在中國，他們甚至連中學校隊都進不去…他們覺得中國得重新考慮考慮籃球的選材標準了…

新聞鏈接>>>>>>??日本平均身高僅192cm 富堅勇樹167cm 河村勇輝172cm

[–]LingCHN 18 points 10 hours ago

Height is not the problem, Zhou Qi is too skinny to play center but he has to because he is tall.

中國球迷：身高并不是癥結所在~而是他們把周琦放在了中鋒位置上，但是他又太瘦了！同時因為身高臂長，周琦又不得不去打中鋒…

[–]copydex1 13 points 8 hours ago

That's my point, height is not a problem because Chinese basketball put a massive emphasis on height, thus forsaking skilled but shorter players like those on the Japanese team.

球迷：沒錯，我就是這個意思，身高并不是問題的根本！而是中國選材太注重身高了，因而放棄了那些像日本隊那樣的技術好但個子不高的球員…

[–]Warriorsnoodlebball 264 points 17 hours ago

China is just not very good at basketball lol

勇士球迷：中國隊可真不太會打球啊…吼吼…

[–]Hawksuoco 11 points 17 hours ago

South Sudan was on fire from 3.

老鷹球迷：南蘇丹三分球投瘋了…

[–]KnicksRobbobertoBuii 6 points 16 hours ago

China also shot well (8/20 - 40%) but South Sudan had 7 more makes from 3 (15/30) which ended up being the reason they pulled away in the 2nd Half

尼克斯球迷：中國隊三分投得也不錯，20投8中，但是南蘇丹多投中了7記三分（30投15中），這就是他們能在下半場帶走比賽的原因~

[–]Timberwolvestomdawg0022 155 points 17 hours ago

Imagine how bad they'd be if Slo Mo didn't suit up for China

森林狼球迷：想想看，要是人類蠕動精華李凱爾沒加入中國隊的話，他們得弱成啥樣啊…

[–][NYK] Carmelo AnthonyClutchGamingGuy 17 points 12 hours ago

Kyle was fucking atrocious in their first game though

尼克斯球迷：樓上森林狼球迷先別急著夸，之前的第一場比賽，李凱爾打得可他媽爛了我跟你說…

注：第一場對陣塞爾維亞的小組賽，李凱爾發揮不佳，全場得到0分4籃板4助攻1搶斷。

[–]JALbert 122 points 16 hours ago

It's crazy to me that this is still the case despite basketball being so huge in China.

球迷：盡管籃球運動現在在中國的影響力那么大，他們卻還是這么弱，太讓人想不明白了…

[–]Warriorsnoodlebball 101 points 16 hours ago

With a lot of resources as well. Money isn't an issue. It's grassroots, mentality, and coaching.

勇士球迷：而且他們資源充沛，錢不是問題…他們強不起來，主要還是培養體系、心態以及訓練方式的問題…

[–]GovernmentClearance -10 points 11 hours ago

Genetics

球迷：基因問題…

[–]COHandCOD 1 point 36 minutes ago

And Japan win against Nba all star led finland, its just skill issue.

球迷：日本都能贏下NBA全明星帶隊的芬蘭隊，這說明不是基因問題，就是技術問題…

注：8月27日，日本隊98-88戰勝由馬爾卡寧領銜的芬蘭隊。

[–]KnicksCoilConductor 93 points 15 hours ago*

China in general is much better at developing athletes for individual sports rather than team sports - they’re not very good relative to their investment in soccer nor baseball too.

But they’re fine at tennis, ping pong, badminton, swimming, weight lifting etc. They’ve even got a runner every now and then. So seems at the grassroots level team coaching might be an issue? Just theorizing.

Oddly enough, volleyball seems to be an exception to this. They're ranked high in both mens and womens teams there and even medaled for womens.

尼克斯球迷：總體來說，相對于培養個體項目運動員，中國不太善于培養團體項目運動員，他們在投資足球或者棒球運動方面也不是很擅長…但是中國在網球、乒乓球、羽毛球、游泳、舉重等方面做得不錯，還時不時會冒出一個跑步特別厲害的運動員~所以從培養體系層面看，訓練方式可能是（中國籃球較弱的）問題所在？我只是推測推測哈~~不過奇怪的是，中國排球貌似是個例外，中國男排和女排在世界排名都挺高的，女排甚至還拿過獎牌呢！

[–]Raptorswilla13 32 points 14 hours ago

Spot on, and you might notice that China basically sucks at all team sports that involve physical contacts. Kids in China play basketball for fun only, and schools don't really organize any tournaments. Selection of athletic prospects is mostly originated from less-developed areas where some families might send their kids off to the provincial training camps / "sports school", and how well you might progress down the road is mainly based on your physique (i.e. you will highly unlikely to become a PG in any provincial teams if you are only 5'5). So deep down in the root, basketball is only a job to them, and players in the CBA can earn 5x more in CBA than in other Asian leagues. With such a comfortable life, you won't really see Chinese players play with passion.

Volleyball is an exception, but only women's volleyball. It's odd that women's team seem to be achieving more success under the same regime.

猛龍球迷：樓上的兄弟你說到點子上了~~大家可能也注意到了，基本上所有需要身體對抗的團隊運動中國都打得很爛…中國的孩子打籃球都是玩兒玩兒而已，學校之間也不太會舉辦錦標賽之類的…未來運動員的選材大部分是來自欠發達地區，那里的家長們把自己的孩子送到省訓練隊或者體育學校去訓練，而他們的運動員之路如何走也主要取決于他們的體型（比如：如果你的身高只有165cm，那你幾乎不可能在任何一個省籃球隊打上控衛）。所以，歸根結底，打籃球對中國運動員來說就是一份工作，而CBA的薪水又是其他亞洲籃球聯賽薪水的5倍之多。在如此舒適沒有壓力的環境之下，很少有中國球員帶著激情打球。排球確實是個例外，但僅限于女排~奇怪的是，雖然身處相同的體制之下，女隊似乎比男隊能取得更多的成功…